If President Donald Trump doesn’t want international students at Harvard, there are plenty of foreign governments and universities happy to take them.

Harvard University PhD student Zilin Ma, who is from China, joins Ana Cabrera to react to the Trump administration’s threats to ban the enrollment of international students and to end federal contracts with the school.

As the standoff between the university and the Trump administration escalates, the appeal of Harvard, and its standing on the global stage, seemingly hangs in the balance.